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GParted 0.30 and ... SystemRescue project dying ???

Posted: 08 Jan 2018, 17:49
by sdrubble

I may seem to be asking about two entirely different subjects in a single post. But I have a feeling that both of my questions might have the SAME answer ... :(

I've been following and using SystemRescueCD since some of its 0.x versions (most of which have been removed from the changelog page a long, long time ago).

One very positive thing that I have always noticed (and always paid close attention to), thru the lifetime of the project, was that the GParted tool had ALWAYS been kept up-to-date within SRCD. Many instances have happened in the past, when Dupoux would update SRCD *only* to include the latest version of GParted. This went on always without fail, and usually the newest version of GParted would find its way into SRCD in about 1-3 weeks at the most.

Today I find the following situation (bear in mind I'm NOT DEMANDING anything from the devs - who certainly don't owe me anything ! :) ) -

1. GParted 0.29.0 was released on 2017-08-07 ( ... ), and made its way into SRCD 5.0.4 (on 2017-08-24).

2. GParted 0.30.0 was released on 2017-10-10 ( ... ).

3. SRCD has launched THREE subsequent releases (5.1.0, 5.1.1 & 5.1.2), all of which have ignored the updated GParted 0.30.0. I haven't personally downloaded either of these 3 versions yet, but I'm trusting the contents of SRCD's changelog and package-list pages.
EDIT: My mistake, sorry - both SRCD 5.1.0 & 5.1.1 pre-date GParted 0.30.0, so they were both up-to-date. It was only SRCD 5.1.2 (published 2017.11.05) which could be said to "have ignored GParted 0.30.0".

4. The last forum post by admin (who I assume to be Dupoux himself) is from May 30, 2017. gernot, who's seemingly the other helpful poster in the forums, has made only 5 posts since that same date ... while I could find a bunch of recent topics by other users, in various of the sub-forums, which have 0 replies.

Again: I'm not demanding anything from any one here. But I also know that many (if not most) open source projects have a limited lifetime, which usually goes hand-in-hand with the personal RL circumstances of the founder(s) / developer(s). I'm just asking to be INFORMED if this is finally the case with SystemRescueCD - which has always been for me one of the most useful projects out there, and that for a sizeable number of years.

Regardless of your reply (or non-reply), rest assured you'll always have my greatest gratitude and respect.

Cheers & good luck to everybody ! :)

EDIT: P.S. - In face of my previous mistake (already corrected above, in item 3.), I admit I might have exaggerated in my overall tone about the "imminent death" of SystemRescue... I might have deleted my post entirely because of that exaggeration. However, I will keep it. Who knows, it might bring up some public insight into the current and future status of the project - which is one I particularly care very much for.

Re: GParted 0.30 and ... SystemRescue project dying ???

Posted: 09 Jan 2018, 16:27
by gernot
@sdrubble yes, it is real quiet here. I try to help on topics i know about. Some questions are so special that they need costly testing to answer.

Sysrcd is also a favor for me. Sometime i have to use old versions because actual versions don't work on legacy hardware or things are dropped.

There are many good reasons to drop things. I think it is in most cases size, outdated packages, sometimes great effort to upgrade to new versions.

I think manpower is the main problem.
There are some things which are nice to have but no can afford the integration and the testing.
I think about things like save raid handling, better alternate manual network control, maybe safe boot.


p.s. this is not only a sysrcd problem. I think on puppy linux which was long time my "Desktop to go" with save function. I dont find any actual live linux with this function runniing on actual hardware.

Re: GParted 0.30 and ... SystemRescue project dying ???

Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 22:36
by sdrubble
Merci gernot,

Thx for the clarifications. The way I see it, this entropy issue affects all things in life (usually the best ones ...), not only the software projects. In face of this fact, we do what's possible - evolve and adapt. :\

The forum didn't send me an email notification of your reply - that's why I'm late on replying myself.

Regarding Sysrcd and gparted specifically, I'll probably end up complementing Sysrcd with GParted Live, mostly wherever I need to dance with FAT32 partitions. It seems to me that the GParted author has implemented his own workarounds around some upstream quirks from the parted libraries - entropy happening around these latter ones too, that's my guess. :(

Good luck, and take care ! :)

Re: GParted 0.30 and ... SystemRescue project dying ???

Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 17:24
by ottavio
I'm emotionally connected to sysrescd because it has helped me a lot in the past. Is there any way that I can help? I'm not a developer but I have some experience with Linux and open source.